Eternal Salvation Is Eternal So How Can You Lose It?

Since Eternal Salvation is eternal, how could you lose it?

Salvation is indeed eternal, as stated in Heb. 5:9, but please note who receives it:

And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.

Obviously, eternal salvation is only for those who obey (continuous-tense) Jesus!

This does not mean, however, that perfect obedience or sinless perfection is demanded for salvation (1 Jn. 1:8; Jam. 3:2). But again, we cannot compare the lesser sins such as worry and unthankfulness to sins such as sexual immorality, drunkenness, greed, etc. that will exclude anyone from the kingdom.

Therefore, based on Heb. 5:9, if one doesn’t obey God, he should not think he will enter the kingdom of God one day. The Lord Jesus taught the same in Jn. 5:29:

And come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.

See also Rom. 2:7 and Gal. 6:8-10.

One final point, the only time we read of our eternal salvation is in Heb. 5:9, yet when the Once Saved Always Saved people mention our eternal salvation they almost never cite the entire verse which shows who the recipients are!

Once A Son Always A Son – True Or False?

Proponents of Once Saved Always Saved theology typically use the following type of logic:

A child cannot become unborn, and the relationship of a father and a child cannot be ended. Once a son, always a son. Therefore, once we are saved we will always be saved. Or as Hal Lindsey wrote:

When you’re born into your earthly family, you may be a winner or a loser in your behavior, but you’re still a member of that family. There’s no way to be unborn just because you don’t measure up to the standards of your family. It’s just the same when you’re born into God’s family. You may be disciplined for wrong behavior, but you won’t be disowned. (The Liberation of Planet Earth, p. 221)

This argument is based on natural fact, then applied to the spiritual, which doesn’t always hold up as truth. (Once Saved Always Saved adherents frequently make this kind of mistake of arguing from the natural to the spiritual.) This type of error can be demonstrated by the following facts: Before we became Christians, we were all “children of the devil” (Acts 13:10; 1 Jn. 3:10) and “sons of the evil one” (Mt. 13:38). In other words, the devil was our spiritual father (Jn. 8:44). However, this spiritual father-child relationship changed at the point of salvation, according to Scripture! Aren’t you glad that spiritual, father-child relationships can be ended?

We are sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus (Gal. 3:26), yet it is possible to stop believing (Lk. 8:13), have our faith destroyed (2 Tim. 2:18) and for our faith to become shipwrecked (1 Tim. 1:19,20).

Also, angels and Adam are called “son(s) of God” (Job 1:6; Lk. 3:38, KJV), yet some angels and Adam lost their eternal life, and we can too as sons of God.

We can’t become unborn, but we can die spiritually (Lk. 15:24,32; Rom. 8:13; Jam. 1:14,15; etc.)! We must endure to the end to be saved (Mt. 10:22).

Finally, Lindsey wrote you won’t be disowned, but Jesus said if we disown him, he will in turn disown us (Mt. 10:33, NIV). Who should we believe?

Excerpt from The Believer’s Conditional Security, Copyright Dan Corner

Severe Warning And Godly Advice To Bible Teachers And Pastors

If you are a teacher, remember you are not in a popularity contest (1 Thess. 2:4)! Your aim should be to please God and win his approval, which does not come automatically (Gal. 1:10).

Mt. 18:6 should especially grip a teacher:

But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea (NKJV).

Causing another to sin can be done through false teachings (Mal. 2:8; 2 Tim. 2:17,18; Rev. 2:20) and example (Rom. 14:21; 1 Cor. 8:10,11). Therefore, be careful what you teach and do.

Also, let the words of 1 Tim. 4:16 remain with you:

Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers (NIV).

Remember, if you are a pastor, you are to keep watch over the ones God has entrusted into your care (Heb. 13:17). Such includes warning, rebuking and correcting—not just encouraging and comforting.

Your judgment as a teacher will be more strict than others (Jam. 3:1). Do not, therefore, compromise the truth of Scripture to please your audience or to promote your own ministry. Jesus never did. Many walked away from him and his message never to return, through no fault of his. Make it your goal to please God, not the people with itching ears, even those who have money and influence in your community.

If you are a pastor, you are not a very good shepherd, or worse, if you know Once Saved Always Saved is wrong and you are afraid to publicly express it to your congregation, especially in light of all the Once Saved Always Saved messages pouring out over the airwaves and found in literature. The Once Saved Always Saved teachers aren’t afraid to openly teach this harmful doctrine with conviction and authority!

The truth is vital, though it might be hard to receive at times and hard to disseminate, especially when you know in advance that some will be unhappy with it. This is one of the hardest tests a faithful minister will ever face. For the sake of eternal souls and your own judgment on that awesome Day, do what is right:

Herald and preach the Word! Keep your sense of urgency (stand by, be at hand and ready, whether the opportunity seems to be favorable or unfavorable, whether it is convenient or inconvenient, whether it is welcome or unwelcome, you as a preacher of the Word are to show people in what way their lives are wrong) and convince them, rebuking and correcting, warning and urging and encouraging them, being unflagging and inexhaustible in patience and teaching. For the time is coming when [people] will not tolerate (endure) sound and wholesome instruction, but having ears itching [for something pleasing and gratifying], they will gather to themselves one teacher after another to a considerable number, chosen to satisfy their own liking and to foster the errors they hold, and will turn aside from hearing the truth and wander off into myths and man-made fictions (2 Tim. 4:2-4, Amplified Bible).

Paul explicitly told us there the time is coming when people will not tolerate (endure) sound and wholesome instruction. He also stated false teachers will abound who will teach things that will satisfy these people with itching ears. That time has come! It is no longer futuristic, but present tense! In our present hour, people are not enduring sound instruction and there are many teachers ready to teach to satisfy their itching ears.

Excerpt from The Believer’s Conditional Security by Dan Corner
Copyright 2000 Daniel D. Corner

Does My Deliberate Sin Exclude Me From Grace?

Email received by Evangelical Outreach:

Dear Sirs, I am one who became angry with God and deliberately turned away from him for a long time. Recently, I have experienced, quite unexpectedly, conviction and a desire to return to the Lord. I have repented, but I have some lingering doubts about whether the Lord Jesus has actually forgiven me. Does my period of rebellion exclude me from the possibility of grace through faith in the atoning work of Christ? I will not minimize the extent of my anger; I hated God. Now, I do believe that He has forgiven me and that Jesus, His son, has saved me. I love the Lord Jesus Christ now, and I want to be freed from all sin. Please share your thoughts. I know you are uncompromising in the truth.

[Response: Greetings in Jesus’ name. The ONLY way one who turns from God cannot return is to commit eternal sin, which is what is referred to in Hebrews 6:4-6. Eternal sin is saying/believing that Jesus performed his miracles by the power of the devil. Jesus taught all forms of blasphemy can be forgiven, even hating God, but the eternal sin can’t be forgiven. Please see Mark 3:29,30. The prodigal returned to God and the Father RAN to welcome him back and then had a FEAST in celebration (Luke 15). Also, if one turns away from the truth and commits a multitude of sins and then is brought back, he can be forgiven too (James 5:19,20). Also, please remember the loooooooooooong list of horrible sins that king Manasseh committed and he still found forgiveness (2 Chronicles 33:1-20) ….]

Is Revelation 21:8 Works Salvation? Zane Hodges Once Saved Always Saved

After citing Revelation 21:8, Zane Hodges comments in his book, The Gospel Under Siege (p. 123):

This is not, of course, salvation by works after all! It is rather a declaration that in the new heavens and the new earth (cf. Rev. 21:1), there are no more cowards, no more idolators, no more liars—except those who have been consigned to the lake of fire!

But what about born again Christians who have done these things? To be specific, what about wise Solomon who ended his life with defection from his God and with idolatry (1 Kings 11:1-10)! The answer is that they will all be in the presence of God as citizens of the eternal world. And whatever their failures on earth may have been, these are gone. If they had been liars, they are liars no more. If idolators, they are idolators no more. For now they are immortal and sinless. They are conformed to the image of God’s Son.

How did they come to this place. By the grace of God.

It’s very disturbing that Zane Hodges would comment on the clear truth of Rev. 21:8 and say it is “not, of course, salvation by works.” One must wonder from this if he is trying to cloud the issue.

Zane Hodges also reveals how he understands works! If one resists sinful temptations as commanded (Jam. 4:7; 1 Pet. 5:9), he is living in accord with Biblical grace (Titus 2:12; 2 Cor. 1:12), not believing in works salvation! If not being sexually immoral, an idolater, liar, etc. was believing works for salvation as suggested, then Paul actually contradicted himself, for he is the one who gave us Eph. 2:8,9 and other passages about such not inheriting the kingdom (1 Cor. 6:9,10; Gal. 5:19-21; Eph. 5:5-7).

The problem here is also the way the Once Saved Always Saved people understand grace. By Hodges’ definition of grace, it should be apparent that he is allowing people into the kingdom (liars and idolaters) whom God clearly stated will be thrown into the lake of fire. This reflects the infinite difference between the grace of Once Saved Always Saved and the grace taught in the Scriptures!

If one would carefully read Rev. 21:1-8, he would see that verses 7 and 8 are contrasting passages describing first the overcomer—those who actually enter the kingdom—and second, those who get thrown into the lake of fire (or the non-overcomer). Verse 8 describes the latter. That passage is very shocking to today’s Once Saved Always Saved gospel, for it does not state that only the unbelieving will be thrown into the lake of fire, as one might expect. In fact, the unbelieving are not even mentioned at the top of the list!

God himself, who knows everything there is to know about grace, his own faithfulness, love and keeping power, etc. spoke these words after the infinite and finished work of Christ on the cross. Along with 1 Cor. 6:9,10, Rev. 21:8 best describes all of those who will spend their eternity, with the devil, in burning sulfur.

Rev. 21:8 is an irreconcilable problem text for all of the Once Saved Always Saved proponents and their grace message, since they believe one can actually do those things after their salvation, never repent, and still not be in the danger that God clearly says they are in! We should not, therefore, be surprised that Rev. 21:8 will be avoided or distorted by the grace changers, through some strange interpretation, because it is so antithetical to Once Saved Always Saved.

Christian Persecution | Renounce Faith | Worship Antichrist | Receive Mark of the Beast

Around 111 AD, in the days of Pliny the Younger (62-113 AD) and Emperor Trajan, early Christians were subjected to the ultimate test of fidelity to the Lord Jesus Christ—worship the emperor’s statue and the images of the pagan gods or be led away to execution. As governor of Northern Asia Minor, Pliny the Younger wrote Trajan:

Meanwhile I have taken this course with those who were accused before me as Christians: I have asked them whether they were Christians. Those who confessed I asked a second and a third time, threatening punishment. Those who persisted I ordered led away to execution. For I did not doubt that, whatever it was they admitted, obstinacy and unbending perversity certainly deserve to be punished …. Others who were named by an informer said that they were Christians, and soon afterward denied it, saying, indeed, that they had been, but had ceased to be Christians, some three years ago, some many years, and one even twenty years ago. All these also not only worshipped your statue and the images of the gods, but also cursed Christ.

One can only wonder what it would have been like to stand in the shoes of those Christians who were before Pliny the Younger, knowing that the ultimate test had arrived. Though we can never know that particular test, Christians may one day face a similar situation if we are the generation that is alive when the Antichrist has power over the entire earth (Rev. 13:7). All people at that time, including Christians, will be forced to worship the image of the Antichrist and receive his mark to buy and sell. To refuse this will mean execution or to be led away into captivity (Rev. 13:15; 13:9,10; 20:4).

To renounce one’s faith under persecution is to be placed under the category of the fearful (Rev. 21:8, KJV), according to A. T. Robertson:

There are eight epithets here used which apply to various sections of this direful list of the doomed and the damned, all in the dative (case of personal interest). For the fearful (tois deilois). Old word (from deidō, to fear) for the cowardly, who recanted under persecution, in N.T. only here, Matt. 8:26; Mark 4:40 (italics his).

To worship the image of the Antichrist and to receive the mark of the beast will mean loss of salvation for the Christian (Rev. 14:9-12). If we are that generation, the following Scriptures will especially be important safeguards for us:

They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death (Rev. 12:11, NIV).

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell (Mt. 10:28, KJV).

Source: The Believer’s Conditional Security, Copyright Dan Corner.

Backsliders Can Come Back To God

Backsliders who desire to draw close to God once again should be encouraged by various passages of Scripture such as the following:

My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins. (James 5:19-20)

You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. (Rom 11:19-23)

Remember that God is faithful to forgive our sins if we confess them.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1:9)

This must be understood in light of Prov 28:13 which teaches not only to confess sin but to renounce those sins to find mercy.

Examples of backsliders who returned to God are King David and the prodigal son. Others fell away and never came back like Solomon and Judas.

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Dan Corner Holiness Preaching on Evangelism and Soul Winning

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Today’s False Gospel Exposed by Dan Corner

Nearly 2,000 years ago the apostle Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, predicted that the day would yet come when people would not put up with sound doctrine. He wrote to Timothy about this and informed him how to counteract it. This is what he said:

“Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths” (2 Tim. 4:2-4).

That time is here! Multitudes of people living in our day are not putting up with sound doctrine and there are a great number of teachers saying what itching ears want to hear. The combination of these has resulted in various false doctrines.

But of all such teachings so produced, there is one doctrine in particular that is especially ear tickling, flesh-inciting, scripture-distorting and sin-breeding. This same teaching lulls Christians to sleep, takes them off their spiritual guard, destroys the fear of God, sets them up for a spiritual fall and is very prevalent. It is known under various names. Some call it eternal security, like Charles Stanley. This is how he defines this teaching:

“Listen, eternal security is that work of God by which He guarantees that the gift of salvation once received is, listen, is forever possessed and cannot be lost.

Others in Calvinistic circles call this same teaching the perseverance of the saints, while still others know it as the teaching of once saved, always saved. Reformed teacher, Steve Brown, comments about these different names:

“Very strong, orthodox, fundamental, Bible-believing Christians disagree on the doctrine. The doctrine is called uh, by Baptists, eternal security or once saved always saved. Those of us who are Reformed uh, call it the perseverance of the saints, but we mean the same thing. And the doctrine states that once you’re saved, you’re always saved, that God holds you, that you will persevere to the end.”

The doctrine of once saved always saved can be simply defined, as its name declares, that is, once a person becomes saved, he will always remain saved.

In this message, you will hear actual OSAS teachers offer counsel consistent with this teaching regarding adultery, fornication, alcoholism, pornography, suicide, murder, homosexuality, etc. Brace yourself for some shocking audio quotes from people with a staggering influence in religious circles.

This is a one hour audio message by Dan Corner with actual excerpts from big-name eternal security teachers and our biblical refutation. Very hard hitting and eye-opening.

Today’s False Gospel Exposed (mp3)


False Gospel Exposed Video, part 1